Self-published in 1958..and 1975..Both are shiny hard paperbacks with comb binding..

First book has 243 pages, second has 232 pages...

Moisture staining on very outside edges but the staining has not invaded the pages themselves.

Quite comprehensive reference books covering more than 1500 patterns total with good photos and comparison information..

Both 9" by 8 1/2"..Package will weigh about 4 pounds for shipping (Media mail is reasonable)