Here are two large lotus leaf toggles each with frogs and lotus leafs as key parts of the work. In the first 4 frames we see a fat frog nibbling on the vine of the lotus which has come through the leaf from the bottom where the vine itself begins and comes through the leaf. The frog is very large, fat. In the second toggle, the whole lotus "action" is on the underside: a large lotus pod with the seeds is seen, all seeds are in excellent condition and all move. The frog is a bit on the skimpy side. It is not a fat one as appears in the first of these two toggles. People who have seen both have different preferences: some like the second one because of the full lotus pod and its moving seeds, some like the first one with its complex carving of the lotus vine and the bulbous frog. Both are in excellent condition. The first one is an early Qing piece, the second one perhaps slightly younger.