This large and imposing Oribe mizusashi was made by long time Mino potter, Hayashi Shotaro. Thrown out of a fine Mino clay, much of the surface was cut away to create a surface of wonderful flat planes and rough areas of faceted clay which was then glaze in Hayashi's rich Oribe glaze. The surface shows a wonderful array of tonal variations with areas of deep greens and thinner areas showing almost to the buff of the clay...
Pale clay baked red with a dusting of natural ash glaze and small streaming rivulets complimenting the undulating ribbons billowing pell-mell from the top of this odd shaped sculptural vase by Kiyomizu Rokubei VII (1922-2006) enclosed in the original signed wooden box. The piece is 9 inches (23.5 cm) tall, 7-1/2 inches (19 cm) wide and in excellent condition...
This handsome piece was created by studio glass artist Don Gonzalez by blowing hot glass into a sand mold made by the artist, resulting in a texture to the lower part of the vessel and three feet which elevate the bottom about an inch. Each foot is polished on the bottom. The piece stands 8" tall and 5" diameter...
There is an understated elegance in the work of Saito Hiroyuki which is very difficult to describe, but blatantly apparent the moment one holds his work. This guinomi is expertly crafted, rough textured outside with a smooth rim leading to the dark inner “Ma” (emptiness), ready to be filled. It is 6.5 cm (2-1/2 inches) diameter, 5 cm (2 inches) tall and in excellent condition, directly from the artist...
This remarkable tea bowl is from the kilns of Yoshida Shuen (1940-1987)—an apprentice of Miwa Kyusetsu (1910-2012) who was awarded the status of Living National Treasure in 1983. It features a milky translucent glaze somewhat resembling coral, with a few small portions of the foot of the tea bowl exposed, displaying the reddish coarse clay that this piece is fashioned from.
Hagi-yaki has a tradition stretching back over 400 years and is a high-fired stoneware type of pottery...
Mint Oni-Hagi masterpiece chawan with notched foot by star potter Seigan Yamane. This extraordinary tea bowl is covered by wonderful different shades of orange-red glaze on brown pottery. In my opinion it is the one of the most aesthetic chawans that he made. The seal of the artist is stamped on the bottom. We have a similar chawan with greenish glaze - same price.
Seigan Yamane was born in 1952, and started making Hagi ware in 1987...
A spectacular pottery sculpture of the Okoze (Scorpion Fish) by Kimura Gyokushu enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled simply Bizen Okoze. It is 27 x 18.5 x 9 cm (11 x 7-1/2 x 3-1/2 inches) and is in excellent condition.
Kimra Gyokushu was born the eldest son of the 16th generation Kimura Munetoku in 1953. He graduated from Nagoya University of Arts in 1976, then went on to be awarded the Okayama Mayor's Award at the Okayama Prefectural Exhibition that same year...
Large Oribe glazed tsubo with hakeme slip decoration and a broad, flared lip.
Stoneware, slip and glazes
11.5" x 8.5"
Lavish charring on two sides contrasts with sliding Hai-yu glaze opposite on this thick and bold vase by Masamune Kengo enclosed in the original signed wooden box. The vase is 16 by 13 inches (40 by 33 cm) across, 11 inches (28 cm) tall and in excellent condition. The artist has been largely exhibited and prized, including the Chunichi Kokusai Togei Ten, Nihon Dento Kogei Ten, Nihon Togei ten, Issui Kai Ten, and Okayama Ken Ten.
A playful works with lively colors and manga iconography among the outlandish designs on those sake flasks by the very popular young artist Fukami Fuminori enclosed in their original signed wooden boxes titled Manga Oribe Tokkuri.
Size,(Left) D 9.8 cm H 15.4 cm
Size,(Right) D 9.2 cm H 15.1 cm
Condition, Excellent
Fukami Fuminori is a potter and an illustrator, and a rising star...
This piece is with natural glaze that is made of burnt fire woods, melted ashes of fire woods of red pine tree and red skin by flames. The pieces are fired in the small kiln "anagama" for 10days and this piece was fired three times.
Size: 9.0cm(D)/25.2cm(H)
Accessary: wooden box signed by artist
An urban landscape split by a drooping plane by Kiyomizu Masahiro (Rokubei VIII). It is 19-1/2 x 11-1/2 x 11 inches (49.5 x 29 x 28 cm). Firing flaws in the corners of the towers accent the work, the degradation of from a characteristic of the artists work, often purposefully introduced to create tension...
A sculptural vessel by Yamaguchi Michie enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled heel. This is a fabulous representative work by this artist, in her signature peach glaze, something a little bit zesty. Yamaguchi sensei will tell you she is captivated by the beauty of the female form, and she seeks to imbue her works with that feminie grace. It could serve as a vase or simply be displayed on its own as an obje't...
Mayumi Oda. b. 1941 in Tokyo. "Chant of the Ocean Nautiles" and "Chant of the Ocean Conce" two complimenting artist proofs woodblock prints with gold and white ink printed in black paper. 17.5 x 25.5 inches and 29.25 x 42 inches with frame. No condition problems to note. According to her own biography Mayumi Oda is known to many as the ‘Matisse of Japan’, Mayumi Oda has done extensive work with female goddess imagery...
A four sided vase in Aka-e design by important 20th century potter Kawamoto Goro enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Aka-e Kamon Hanaike exhibited in 2001 and published in the book Kawamoto Rekitei, Goro, Taro, San-Dai-Ten (Three Generations of Kawamoto Family). It is 27.5 cm (11 inches) tall, 16 cm (6 inches) square and in excellent condition. The Book is included.
Kawamoto Goro (1919-1986) was born in Seto to a family of potters. He studied in Kyoto at the same instituti...
Tokkuri, Sake Decanter, Mashiko-yaki, by Tagami Munetoshi. Kaki (persimmon) glaze with ichimatsu (checkerboard) pattern of red & green overglaze enamel decorations of snow on bamboo grass (yuki mochi sasa) & stripes. H. 5.5"(14cm) x Dia. 3.375"(8.5cm). Volume = 13oz(380cc.)
Tagami Munetoshi (b. 1972) is the son of Tagami Isamu and grandson of Sudo Takeo. He is the 5th generation of potters in Mashiko’s Hinatagama (Hinata Kiln) founded during the Meiji Period (1868-1912) by Sudo Yujiro. At the...
A rare small self-published book titled Collection of Exlibris Initials (Kashiramoji shōhyōshō 頭文字書票集) by Kamiya Kiyotaka 紙屋清貴 (b. 1951). Book is only 7 x 6.9 x 0.6 cm in size, and consists of 20 pages, containing 18 exlibris prints, woodblock printed covers and two wood cut pages- title page and justification page. It is signed in pencil and numbered 4/20. Published in 1989. Eighteen Exlibris prints are tipped in onto pages, smallest of which is 2.1 x 2 cm. Most prints ar...
Looking something akin to dragon skin with gilded beads glistening between the scales, this recent creation by young artist Hiramatsu Ryoma demonstrates his creative imagination and challenges the traditional boundaries of what defines a guinomi (Saké cup). Described as a “Kiretsu-mon” (ki = turtle, retsu = cracked, mon = design/ crest), according to Hiramatsu, his inspiration for this piece (and a number of others) came from an ancient form of sea life known as an Ammonite—a large spiral...
A beautiful vessel / seashell Kara of organic shape with a sideways, seedpod opening in mat mottled turquoise glaze producing a feeling of underwater ambiance. The rest of outer body and the side, elongated shell is done with his usual technique of grooving the surface with needles and rubbing iron into the grooves resulting in those great dark brown and white lines. The contrast between the two techniques is producing a fantastic visual effect. Signed: Tanoue Shinya.
***** Tanoue Shinya (...
A tall vase covered in rich Oribe green by Yamaguchi Makoto enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Oribe Kaki. Another excellent example of this artists works.
Size, D 15.4 cm H 36.2 cm
Condition, Excellent
A rising star in the pottery world, Yamaguchi Makoto was born in Seto, Aichi prefecture in 1978. In 2000 he was apprenticed to Hiroshige Kato (Kasen Toen). In 2004 began exhibiting his wares and has held many solo exhibitions at Department Stores and top gallerie...
A classic angular silhouette in vivid Oribe coloration pierced by a jagged handle by Takauchi Shugo enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Oribe Te-oke. This artist does have a surprisingly wide range, and this piece certainly proves that. Adept at Shino, Oribe, Mashiko styles and others, he is a tough one to nail down and even more difficult to acquire, his pieces proving very popular at exhibition. This is a rare opportunity to acquire one of his masterpieces. It is 36 x 15 x 32.5 ...
Juicy color and fun form in contemporary glass. Both odd and elegant, paladin vases feature a contrasting color at the mouth. These are brilliant in groups, and tasty on their own.
Studio Paran is the creative partnership of Richard Jones and Mark Lorenzi. They met in the glass shop of the Rhode Island School of Design.
Studio Paran strives to design work that is unique, affordable and relevant. Their work is handblown.
There are no chips, no cracks, no hairlines and no repairs...
At nearly 13" tall, this large Persian blue style glazed vase cuts a great figure flanked by bold and detailed brushed of owls rendered within medallions and further detailed with patterns of decoration and faint gold accents to complete the piece. The full form is finished off with an elegant and purposeful neck that adds to the vertical nature of the vase without taking anything away from the presented brushwork and design under this attractive glaze.
Suzuki Takuji has had a stellar care...
Modern inspired chawan and mizusashi set with impressed decoration under temmoku and partridge feather glazes. The mizusashi comes with two lids; one just temmoku and the other glazed in temmoku with partridge feather accents.
Stoneware and glazes
Chawan; 4.75" X 4.25"
Mizusashi; 6.75" x 6.5"
Functional, decorative and food safe
Ancient Iga pottery works had been made for a few decades since last Momoyama period from early Edo period. They were fired over 1250 degrees Celsius for 10 days and repeated 3 times and more with no glaze, they has natural glaze that is consist of melted ashes, burnt deposits and scarlet by fire.
They are well known as dynamic style and loved by many tea ceremony master like as famous Oribe Furuta. However, they needed expensive costs, so they could not be continued.
And Sadamitsu Sugimoto re...
Earth tones mix with rivulets of copper green emboldened with flashes of jet black on this vase by Shigemori Yoko enclosed in a signed wooden box titled Oribe Tetsuki Kabin (Oribe Vase with Handle). The green is almost liquid, and gives the impression if you look away it will change. The blacks are solid and brisk, obviously performed spur of the moment and to wondrous effect. The vase is 26 cm (10-1/4 inches) tall and in excellent condition. It comes in a box annotated by her brother.
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Dohei Fujinoki is one of the most popular artist in contemporary KARATSU pottery scene.
Initially he aimed a western painter and then,when he met an old KARATSU pottery piece he had been fascinated.
He has studied at Karatsu and also MIno.
And while, he has studied in tea ceremony.
His repertoires are goods for tea ceremony, sake cup,
and tableware for Japanese cuisine.
This piece is a brand new work created with madara karatsu glaze traditional in Karatsu and perfect hand made.
It wo...
There is something very alive about this sculptural tea bowl by the famed artist Ajiki Hiro, a blossoming to life like fresh shoots breaking through the last winter snow, the warmth of the earth lying beneath pale glaze. The Kodai (foot) is verylow, not much more than a flat spot on bottom, making it very comfortable to hold. It comes enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled simply Shino Wan, and is covered by a stamped paper cover decorated with a sketch of a recluse staring out fr...
Large, waisted form terra cotta teabowl with Rimpa influenced "falling leaves" pattern
Terra cotta, slips and glaze
5.75" x 4.25"
Functional, decorative and food safe
A set of six Yunomi Tea cups showing off to a tee the many styles of Mino-ware for which Yamada Kazu is known.
Each is uniquely engraved in different sizes, with the artist’s signature and they come enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Yunomi, Shino, Hikidashi guro, Ao Oribe, Kiseto, Kakuyu Oribe and Nezumi Shino.
Size, D 7.8 - 9.3 cm H 8.2 - 9.3 cm
Condition, Excellent
Kazu was born in Tokoname cityin 1954, one of Japans ancient kiln areas, into a li...
A very rare Tokumura Kyoko sake set, the Katakuchi was made on request especially for us last mount. It comes enclosed in their original signed wooden boxes titled Hakuji Ryuhimon (White Dragon-skin) Katakuchi and Guinomi respectively and dating to 2020.
Her spiky lances and unfurling fronds forming are fantastical. The artist begins with slabs of clay and then constructs them to create work rooted in existential explorations. In this regard, Tokumaru notes that her spatial expressions allow ...
A tall shizen-yu vase by Sugimoto Sadamitsu enclosed in the original wooden box signed underneath and titled Iga-Hanaire , named within the lid Roso by Sadamitsu (the old priest by Sadamitsu). We see the slightly hunched over form is indeed reminiscent of an old priest, wrapped in robes of green and black and leaning on his staff. This piece appears to have been buried quite deeply in ash, which clung charred and blasted base and has been ground off to create a new texture, like the water bu...
Tea Bowl, Matcha Chawan, by Lee Love of Mashiko (& now Minnesota.) H.3.375"(8.5cm) x Dia.5.375"(13.75cm.) This Ido-gata (well-shaped) bowl of high-feldspar Shigaraki clay was wood-fired in Mashiko, Tochigi Prefecture, where Lee had completed a 3-year apprenticeship to National Living Treasure Shimaoka Tatsuzo. The impressed cord patterning on this bowl is an example of zougan-joumon (rope-impressed inlay) for which Mr. Shimaoka was granted his NLT status. The bowl is accompanied by a signed wood...
Broad, rounded neriage chawan with Ao glaze over the suminagashi influenced pattern
Porcelain and glazes
5.6" X 4.35"
Functional, decorative and food safe
Large Ido style Hagi chawan with original signed box by Hayashi Koyo. This chawan has a great ido influenced form and a wonderful hagi "landscape" with various tones of blush and spotting.
This chawan is in excellent condition and measures 5.5" X 3.6"
Oil Painting by Jeon Joon Yeop. 29 x 21 inches, 73 x 53 cm. Jeon Joon Yeop (born 1953) is a well-known artist in South Korea, with numerous art reviews. He was the top-selling artist in last year’s Korea International Art Fair, Korea’s biggest art fair. Instead of finding comfort in his successes, Jeon accepts popularity as a challenge to further explore how to speak the ancient language of Korean landscape painting with a modern vocabulary of techniques, such as pouring, scratching, spreadi...
This particular guinomi is one of those small gems that make it easy to understand not only the love of saké but of guinomi. A magnificent work of Ningen Kokuho, Isezaki Jun enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Kuro Bizen Shuten . Texture, color, this one has it all!
Size, D 6.6 cm H 6.7 cm
Condition, Excellent
Jun was born the second son to the prominent Bizen family of Isezaki Yozan. With his older brother Mitsuru he studied the plastic arts under t...
Robust medieval green mallet form (kinuta) vase with hakeme slip decoration
Stoneware, slip and glazes
10.5" X 5.65"
Size,Vase D 13.2 cm H 24.6 cm
Size,Sake Cup D 6.4 cm H 6.9 cm
Condition, Excellent
A rising star in the pottery world, Isezaki Koichiro was born into the illustrious family of Living National Treasure Isezaki Jun. He studied at the Tokyo Sculptural University and then apprenticed with Bizen trained American artist Jeff Shapiro, who had apprenticed under his father. Over the last few years he has been the recipient of much attention, and his list of exhibitions is ...
An amazing and rare collection by Koie Ryoji (1938-2020) showing off to a tee the many styles for which is known. Each is uniquely engraved with the artist’s signature and they comes enclosed in the original signed wooden boxes. We have carefully screened and selected each work as a masterpiece unto itself, and feel very confident you will agree.
Size, D 16.8 cm H 15.8 cm
Condition, Excellent
Born in Tokoname, Koie Ryoji graduated the Tokoname industrial school and moved on t...
A spectacular work by Wada Akira enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Omiwatari Chawan (God’s Crossing) and date to 2022. The name comes from the cracks in the ice on Lake Suwa, that is said to be the footprints of God. The blue cracks glaze crawls and plays over the white glaze. The shape is very comfortable, with a rounded body inviting the hand to hold and touch. Inside is all glazed, maing it very easy for whisking the frothy tea.
Size, D 12.1 cm H 11.9 cm
C...
Wood-fired Tea Cup (yunomi) by George Gledhill; Payette, ID.
Shino glaze. H.3.25"(8.25cm) x Dia.2.75"(7cm.)
There have been several influences to George Gledhill’s ceramic work. Buddhism has been a guiding force in life for many years, and George even visits local prisons to teach the Dharma to inmates. Through pottery and Buddhism, he was exposed to Tea practitioners who complimented his work and encouraged him to produce Tea wares. Their introduction to the world of Tea Ceremony has help...
Landscape. Painted with ink and pigments on silk. Signed Suiu and sealed.
Some insignificant light marks are present on the painting and the scroll mounting, otherwise the piece is in fine condition with the age. It is accompanied by a paulownia wood storage box.
Painting: W19 5/8” x H50 3/4” (W50cm x H129cm)
Scroll: W25 3/4"x H79 1/2” (W65.5cm x H202cm)
The Title: "Golden Dream"
Artist: Muramasa Kudo (1948 - present)
Medium: Original Serigraph on Stone Lithograph, arches paper, unframed
The size of Sheet: 41 7/8 " x 30 1/8 "
The size of Image: 39 1/2" x 27 3/8"
The year made: around 1985's
Publisher: Muramasa Kudo Studio
It show the embossed seal of Muramasa Studio.
Printer: Novak Graphics, Tronto, Canada, seal printed on back
Signature: Lower right, signed by Muramasa Kudo in pencil
Edition N...
This large Tsubo by Tanimoto Yoh is amazing and all attitude. It comes enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Iga Yohen Tsubo. The rivers of green glaze flow with the delicate textures in the surface, accumulating around a cluster of voids which look like the eyes of typhoons viewed from space. Opposite...
Size, D 28.6 cm H 30.5 cm
Weight, 8.5Kg
Condition, Excellent
Born in 1958 the son of Iga potter Tanimoto Kosei, Yoh was raised among the kilns and has ...
Large kaku-gata squared teabowl form with a tetsu-yu over a temmoku glaze. The form and foot are both cut square to compliment each other.
Stoneware and glazes
This teabowl measures 4.75 across the face, 6" diagonally and 3.8" tall
Functional, decorative and food safe
Tsutsu-shaped chawan have a unique and especially attractive shape. They are used mainly in the depths of winter to keep in the heat, and prevent the tea from cooling too quickly. Tea disciples of all stripes appreciate this type of bowl for its elegant lines and functional properties.
This tea bowl was fired in the kilns of one of Kyoto’s best known Raku-yaki potters, Sasaki Shoraku III (1944-). The Shoraku line began when the grandfather of the current potter established a kiln...
These expressive forms utilize the clays natural textures to bring out the depths of the oribe green, and electric shimmers of blue flash on the surface in random patterns like heat lightning. This sake set was created by the very popular and hard to find Higashida Shigemasa and come enclosed in their original signed wooden boxes titled Oribe Tokkuri and Guinomi respectively.
Size, The Tokkuri: is W 9.5 cm ( 3-3/4 inches) H 14.6 cm (5-3/4 inches)
Size, Guinomi: is W 5.2 ...
A set of five Yunomi in pale glaze with green stripes by Koyama Fujio enclosed in the original wooden box titled Yunomi and signed Hananoki Gama. Each is 8 cm (3 inches) tall, 6 cm diameter and all are in excellent condition. The writing on the box is unmistakably that of Fujio.
Koyama Fujio was born in 1900 in Okayama Prefecture. From 1925 he studied under Mashimizu Zoroku and began making pottery in Kyoto. In 1941 he participated in a research trip to ancient kiln sites in China and...
Narrated DVD about Mashiko artist potter, Matsuzaki Ken. This DVD features the preparation of clay, hand building, coil building, throwing, throwing chawan, glazing and firing by Ken at his studio and wood fired kiln.
Matsuzaki Ken is internationally recognized for his unique synthesis of what he was taught from Shimaoka Tatsuzo and by proxy from Hamada Shoji and his own blend of these styles together with his view of Shino, yohen, Oribe and various other styles. This is a fascinating glim...
Remarkable Shino sake cup featuring exquisite glazing made by Mino legend Ando Hidetake.
Size
Height 4.6cm
Width 6.2cm
Condition
Unused
Supplied with signed box
Ando Hidetake, born in 1938, hails from the esteemed Mino pottery family of Gifu prefecture. In 1960, he embarked on a remarkable journey as an apprentice under the guidance of Kato Tokuro. Throughout his career, he garnered widespread recognition for his exceptional skills in Shino po...
A virtual textbook on Yohen firing effects. Tamadare, Shinshoku, koge and others decorate this spectacular tea bowl by Fukioka Shuhei enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Iga Chawan and named inside Shizanro (Fuka-yama Michi or Deep Mountain Path). This could be a reference to the five peaks which make up the rim, a traditional form codified in the mid Edo period by the Raku family of potters. It rests on a wari-kodai split foot, unusual for Iga-ware. Overhanging cliffs create a...
Two volumes of the GENDAI NIHON(no)TOGEI IYE SAKUHIN books. Volume #1 and #2 of a three volume set, measuring 10.5" X 8.5" and fully illustrated in color and with a biography, signature and address/phone number of each artist. Great array of mizusashi, chawan, tsubo, etc.
These volumes cover many great and famous potters, including Ningen Kokuho, as well as Bizen, Hagi, Karatsu, Iro-e, Raku and many others.
Shipping is $5 each.
Serene yuteki temmoku conical chawan made in the Chinese taste, though Japanese. The chocolaty oil spots float on the darker iron glaze as if suspended, or frozen in motion. The clay is a a fine buff stoneware and the kodai, foot is well tooled. The chawan is signed, but has not been read, though it is a fine bowl. It has many similarities to Kimura Morikazu, Kamada Koji and Taniguchi Ryozo.
This chawan is in great condition, however there is a minute gold lacquer repair on the lip, the si...
Okuiso Taigaku (b. 1965) Oribe Sake set
The signature of the artist is carved on base.
Size (tokkuri)
Height 17.5cm
Width 9cm
Unused
Supplied with signed box
Okuiso Taigaku, born as the eldest son of Okuiso Eiroku, a master ceramicist renowned for his expertise in Mino and Shino ware, grew up under the influence of his father's craft. Although he had a fondness for pottery from an early age, it was after graduating from university that he...
Manga make a play on the traditional Oribe orange base-glaze, in this fantastic tea bowl by one of the most popular ceramic artist in Japan today Fukami Fuminori enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Manga Oribe Chawan.Inside the lid it has been given a name,Tayu(Orian) a tribute to the high regard with which the artist viewed this result.
Size, D 13.1 cm H 8.9 cm
Condition, Excellent
Fukami Fuminori is a potter and an illustrator, and a rising star. Born in Seto in 19...
A proud Shino bowl licked by flame by legendary artist Hori Ichiro enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Shino Chawan. Red tendrils leap up the deeply fissured white glaze. The bowl is hefty yet comfortable to hold, perfectly formed with slightly tapering sides and a wavy rim. It is 14 cm (5-1/2 inches) diameter, 9 cm (3-1/2 inches) tall and in excellent condition.
Hori Ichiro (b. 1952) graduated the Tajimi School of Industrial Design and apprenticed under Kato Kozo. He has...
Richly Ao glazed Wangata style teabowl with a Shono pattern around the bowl
Stoneware, slip and glazes
5.25" X 3.6"
Functional, decorative and food safe
A magnificent work of Kakurezaki Ryuichi enclosed in the original signed wooden box titled Shin-in. A charred dark clay,flowing ash on the side, shell marks, form,this mizusashi has it all.Dating to 2002,from his Shin-in series comes with the artist original matte lacquer lid.
Size, D 22.8 cm H 20.9 cm
Condition, Excellent
Kakurezaki Ryuichi is one of the most well known of Bizen potters, he is interestingly originally not from Bizen but far off Nagasaki, which seems to ...
Wood-fired Tea Bowl, Matcha Chawan, by John Benn; Harstine Island, WA. Black Glaze, with areas appearing ochre and gold. Two finger marks remain where the bowl was glaze-dipped. Stamped with artist's mark. H. 3.25"(8.25cm) x Dia. 4.625"(11.75cm.)
John Benn studied with F. Carleton Ball and Ken Stevens at the U. of Puget Sound in Tacoma, and with Howard Shapiro and Sandra Simon in the MFA Program at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. In 1976, he built his first wood kiln. Now, he and ...